I believe that:
- other people exist and (some of them) have minds roughly like mine
- the explanations of science (e.g. evolutionary)
are factualshould be taken at face value ("naturalistic ontological attitude") - the reality is based on a monistic incompletely intelligible (
substrate) plane"the map is not the territory, but the map is part of the territory"- there is no essential distinction between the observational knowledge and the logical knowledge, they are "limiting cases" of each other (one always only observes one's mental reasoning, or calculator outputs, or publications; Laplace's demon)
- knowledge is fallible and approximate and (possibly) objective; there is no separate unknowable world of things in themselves even if/though we only know an infinitesimal amount of what exists; a complete effective description of what exists is not possible (attainable)
- personal God does not make sense philosophically (the attributes are contradictory) (one can't be omniscient and be a person)
- some ways of life are better than others
- "what should I do?" for a particular person in particular context (which is what really matters) can be answered both rationally and by intuition (e.g. conscience)
- persons are not ontologically primitive but are complex systems (Marvin Minsky on qualia) (i.e. it's not complicated person contents running on the basic element of personhood, it's the personhood that is complex -- but not necessarily complicated); yet there is something "looking simple" to empathically know in that we do have experiences (see non-eliminative reductionism) -- only that it is not simple to be someone capable of having given experience (and experiences are participatory)
- people are (possibly) Turing-computable and the "problem of free will" is adequately solved by Daniel Dennett, Gary Drescher, Eliezer Yudkovsky and their ilk
categories of systemic metaphysics are useful conceptualisations but there is nothing privileged about them- objects of mathematics exist, but non-constructive objects are grounded in constructive objects (have weaker ontological status)
- nevertheless they "exist more" when they are more worth of pursuit
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopragmatism#Background
- "discovering" and "creating" stress different aspects of the same process. Creation is the (amount of) determination on the variable (pointing to what is to be created-discovered) attributable to the creator-discoverer and discovery is the (amount of) determination on the variable attributable to the object that instantiates it. Determination "is in the description", so for a somewhat disputable example, intuitionistically a mathematician is a creator, and classically a discoverer
- we are responsible for discovering (creating) our values; we are responsible for pursuing goals in accordance with our values
- the exact "lossless" complexity of value may be high, but there is a pattern: values promote versatile long-term efficiency of the society at achieving goals its free individuals might reasonably set out to
- the above notion of efficiency embeds the "exploration principle" that diversity has an instrumental value, and "non-waste / irreversibility principle" that cooperation and negotiation have more instrumental value than killing
- I'm not sympathetic with the "complexity of value" view; I'd say, of course, "we value complexity of what we value", and our practical desires increase in complexity; but the process of valuing is an intelligible open system that has low-complexity approximate descriptions (compare: the universe and its equations); see some posts at Becoming Gaia
- (broad vs. narrow ethics) unlawful -- unethical "in the narrow sense" -- is that which infringes upon the free will of entities who do not so infringe other entities; failing to address (fulfill) one's responsibilities is unethical "in the broad sense"
- not all will is free, it is possible to know another person well enough to perform coercive action that promotes the freeness of their will
- as we grow stronger together these two views become more coextensive
- pleasure is never a value, because it is a cognitive tool to navigate values (hedonism is a category error); similar comment applies to happiness, but the error there is less dangerous because happiness is an abstract notion and "I value happiness" is a tautology
- the same argument covers the error of valuing individual experiencing (aka. indexical utility); the egocentricity of value is better explained by spatiotemporal discounting approach to dealing with uncertainty
- in case someone hasn't grasped it yet: I'm saying that pleasure is a measurement tool like a thermometer, which can be broken or be tampered with, and there are other ways to infer what the temperature is, although still the thermometer is usually good at telling the temperature
- this universe is not likely created by an agenty process. Why would they do it? it's not that I hate the creator: the universe is quite neat! but I think that the following self-defeating argument is invalid: "the ability to get better is good; therefore a better universe is not better because it has less room to get better". A higher existence would better spend its resources better, in more interconnected ways, on furthering its "highness". An agenty process is more likely to discover this universe, but this is inconsequential to us (the likelihood of inconsequence is strengthened by my monistic view of creation-discovery)
- reiterating some points: everyone is guilty of not being as good as he or she could possibly be
- pursuing in the intuitionistic direction to distinguish possibly impossible "possible worlds" from meaningless impossible "possible worlds" puts some ontological weight on intuitionism that classical logic lacks
- past, present and future (or futures, according to quantum physics) exist (why care for something that does not exist?)
- this point of view vindicates the ontological status of classical logic somewhat
- persons are continuous over time, but a self is not extended over time (for more than five minutes, say) -- a self is a "tangent space" over a person, existing only for a single decision
- not talking above about the psychological self, but about the proto-philosophical identity-bearing "I"
- in "Permutation City", it was wrong for them to cut themselves off (their reality mass went back to "score zero" when they discorrelated themselves from our universe)
- [I'll add more later]
Of some of the points I'm less sure than of others. (I've removed some points from the initial post. The stroke-over text is essentially deleted but kept for continuity with other points or comments; it does not mean its negation is stated.)
You write that the notion of a personal God does not make sense philosophically because a person cannot be omniscient. This sounds to me like a reasonable insight. The term personal God is indeed not a clear philosophical concept. I am personally dissatisfied with all the efforts hitherto made by theologians who wanted to put up a philosophical discussion with atheists or agnostics. Neither is the notion of a person clearly conceived in any philosophical or theological system. The awkward adjective omniscient has never to my knowledge even been discussed seriously.
OdpowiedzUsuńI can enumerate all Christian theological concepts, all dogmas, together with concepts like person, free will, guilt, happiness, right and wrong and brand them all as philosophically obscure, almost making no sense. Just like you in your manifesto. I am not a better philosopher and I do not have at my disposal a satisfying philosophical system which explains reality as I perceive it.
The difference between us is that I am in the middle of the process of shaking off my attachment to philosophical soundness in my perception and experience of reality. I am getting used to the fact that my philosophical thinking habits are far behind what I actually perceive. I am coming to terms with the possibility that I more or less correctly perceive spiritual or metaphysical reality without being able to explain this to myself in philosophical terms.
If you challenge me to explain my worldview philosophically I give up immediately. However, I will accept the challenge to find flaws in those of your philosophical arguments which contradict with my worldview. By finding flaws in your arguments I mean the kind of philosophical activity that is worthy of being published in the world's best journals, and not some kind of inspired preaching or personal insights. Inspired preaching or personal insights may come as a bonus but not as a replacement for the diligent application of the philosophical scientific method.
Anyway, your manifesto shows that you are not the kind of atheist who rejects all beliefs which do not meet the strict demands of philosophical clarity. After all, you admit that you exist as a person and that other persons exist who are similar to you. You have a sense of morality and responsibility. In a way, the point about personal God not making sense does not fit the spirit of the rest of the manifesto. You could probably rewrite it to assert that nothing in your experience can be even vaguely described by saying that you know an omniscient person. In this way you will be telling the truth without burdening yourself with the judgement of the philosophical merit of the notion of an omniscient person. But if you really have some arguments which analyze the concepts of person and omniscience then I encourage you to write more about it.
The argument that the universe is not created by an agent who is wiser than you is fallacious. It goes like this. Suppose there is a creator whose knowledge and understanding is beyond me and who is right to have created the universe exactly as it is. I judge this creator on the basis of my knowledge and understanding and my verdict is that the universe should have been created differently. Therefore, such a creator does not exist. I hope this is clear. What remains of the last point of your manifesto? Any intuition, any suspicion, any sense of probability based on this fallacy is nothing more than a hidden espousal of this fallacy.
OdpowiedzUsuńWhy is this fallacy so hard to resist? You seem to be falling prey to it. I am not better. I have lived half of my life under the influence of this fallacy. Why is it so hard to simply observe and assert one's inability to judge the creator in the philosophical way? After all, this is pure logic and a rather short piece of argumentation which belies itself immediately when spelled out. My explanation is based on the observation that the existence of a creator who is right directly implies the guilt of human beings (as the presence of evil is given). We seem to resist the thought of our own guilt. It is hard for us to include in our manifestoes statements like: Either there is no wise creator or we are guilty of our unhappiness.
I do not understand many parts of your manifesto. I do not know what you mean by the explanations of science being factual or by reality being based on a monistic incompletely intelligible plane. Perhaps these two are similar to the claim that surprisingly many aspects of reality can be strikingly successfully described by science. But this is no belief; it is rather a fact perceived by those who are acquainted with science, so I am probably missing something. And evolutionary science is mentioned. This needs an explanation because it is physics and chemistry that are the most successful sciences. I am probably missing something crucial so I am letting you know.
I do not understand the part about persons and Marvin Minksy. This is simply my ignorance. I am also ignorant as to the Dennett-Yudkovsky way of dealing with the problem of free will. Categories of systemic metaphysics mean nothing to me. Neopragmatism - my ignorance too. I do not understand what you write about discovering and creating. I do not recognize the meaning of the slogan the map is not the territory but the map is part of the territory. I will gladly acquaint myself with these things when prompted by personal discussions with you.